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Red Digital Cinema has come under fire recently over allegations that their Mini-Mag storage cards are just cheap commodity SSDs in a fancy enclosure. As it turns out, there's some truth to these assertions, but the situation is not quite as simple as it's made out to be. Let's unwrap it.
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Linus: RED splits the video footage into 4GB files me: wait are they STILL using fat32 Linus: it's because they're using fat32 skdjflaksjdflkasjdf
Great job documenting the bots!
1:30 what kind of psychopath uses a screwdriver like THAT WTF
could have said, 'Made on Earth'
im surprised that linus actually tried to protect the company that pretty much scam him
The size inconsistency could also be due to unit confusion: 476.8 GiB ≈ 512 GB, 480 GiB ≈ 515.4 GB, 931.3 GiB ≈ 1 TB, 960 GiB ≈ 1.031 TB
"Red claims this is to protect the user from accidental deletions" *Off camers scoffing laugh*
Welp, never getting a red.
Hehehehehe!
I bet it costs less than $5 to manufacture this camera and it's parts and they jack up the price to a ridiculous about. That company is committing a scam.
Msata is still a thing?
I hope this was filmed on a RED Cinema camera...
basically RED Ceo wants to profit as much as possible at the expense of customers tricking them that they are getting a far better product.
Oh, a shitty greedy company overcharging without justification. Red Dead Non-Redemption
WTF? Spare area? You mean over provisioning? Come on linus you know better then that. Use proper terms please. Its never good to teach people improper terminology.
Maybe dont rip people off and people wont rip off your ideas. Fuck Red. Camera price is understandable but all the peripherals? Insane...
0:59 First time I've ever heard a Canadian say "ya'll"
I can't believe it. Linus! Linus! is protecting red. this is weird because he wasn't to happy when he bought it
lmao red also sells a basic SSD reader for $250 www.red.com/red-station-mini-mag-usb-3 A 9 foot LITERAL CAT 5 to proprietary fake cat 5 port for $120 www.red.com/RED-GIG-E-Right-to-CAT5E-Ethernet-Cable-9 a "tactical" handle for $150 www.red.com/dsmc2-universal-handle
Nobody: I'm about to end this guy's entire career. Not even a single soul: Everybody Me: Wait that's illegal. IT-my's Recommendations: It's free real estate. Am I a joke to you: Also Me:
Linus will go down in history as a legend
I am late to the partay. Just.....Wow.
I think jinn1mag should be called out for their false statements. But I'm glad they are out there and vent viral. Red is still charging obscene amount of money for an adapter. And on top of that they have clearly taken steps to stop user from using third party drives. Even though they are using standard hardware that could be very easily changed if not for manufactured obstructions. Also, it's true that it's ultimately on customer to decide. But it's kind of messed up if customer had to do in depth research on every product they buy to be assured they get real value. I think Jinn1Mag did service to people by bringing awareness to this. Ultimately as far as Red mini mag is concerned, everything about it is designed to take as much money from people as possible. I mean recovery service is just another way justify the price and low quality. You could just as well take it to any other recovery service as the hardware is standard. I wouldn't be surprised at all actually if they used third party service for recovery anyway. Reading worker reviews about red kind of gives me image that Red's management is just bunch of greedy assholes.
F RED. Other companies are catching up to their proprietary BS and offering equivalent quality at 20% of the price. They blew it. Hope they collapse.
why tf is linus defending a money-eating company lol
Red camera is a scam company who makes lots of claims about inventing things but actually is just a company who repurposes tech > puts it in a different enclosure and then adds lockout chips. Don't support this company
15 mins of my life I will never get back
To be fair, you could probably find a few hundred computer engineers that could design their own SSDs like Red's and it be either free or really fucking cheap.
samsung: sells good SSD's for a low price RED: wait, thats illigal!!
What a shill
hope they had a better explanation to save their faces
I was on RED's side until I saw the price for that SSD. What a joke kek
Excellent video!
Nice job Linus .
My question here becomes this, if u don't like what a company is doing, and evidently have complaints about their product, why do u still use it. Annnddd, if the answer is "it's the best product for us" or something, then stop whining
he isnt whining about them, its because this blew up a few months ago and people were asking him to adress it
DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Linus went off
Red has engineered a raid 1 solution. You're using it wrong. You're supposed to buy 2 complete rigs and 2 people to operate the two rigs.
12:03 hahahahaha 😂
Now that someone else's video has gone viral its time to copy it.
Here's a novel solution: STOP GIVING YOUR MONEY TO RED. Why do IT-myrs who get big enough think they all have to buy overpriced Red bullshit? Fuck them.
I'd suggest Sony F35/F65, Panavision Genesis, Arri D-21 or the newer Alexa, or a Thompson Viper.
What other camera would you recommend?
Wait y’all did some editing after the fact. I didn’t know you can add more images and voice over after the fact. IT-my editing getting more advanced
The only mags I have experience with are pornographic
Hey Linus, IT-my really doesn't want me to subscribe so just for the record I'm subscribed
Again you should have purchased a Hasselblad. For the price of one of those failure prone cards you could have purchased a better camera. Red ripped you off. Suckers born every minute.
@MYCRAZYPRODUCTIONS Hey, just a thought, but when a company repackages OTS components and then marks it up 1000% it kind of falls into the realm of deception on the part of the Red team. At least with a Hassellblaad you get what you pay for without any of those repackaged cards using FAT32 being sold to you for 10 times the real retail cost per card. Just my 2c. Thanks to LTT for ripping one apart and giving a fair and honest review as it will save many others from getting duped.
What are you talking about? Hasselblad’s are brilliant Photo cameras, but are capped at 4K video (most still doing only 1080P). Also the most expensive red card is still about half the price of hasselblad camera. Not including the special medium format lenses you need for them. I don’t believe everyone needs a RED and at first I was even critical given how little Linus seemed to know in his why are red camera so expensive video a while back. However, Brandon is their DP for Linus Media Group, and in his video he made it clear they need a RAW camera with the highest pixel resolution possible for reframing. Their only option is RED. Watching this channel Brandon has proved he isn’t some fly by night DP who just wanted the most expensive thing because Linus could afford it. Their was thought put into what’s necessary for the growth of Linus Media Group.
Red is a rip-off all together
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Imagine using the price of an Intel Optane to buy a normal ssd
Did you blow it to clean it, Linus? I think its too dirty...
That's why I have a Blackmagic instead
Actually, when designing industrial or professional gear that isn't expected or planned to sell in large quantities (typically less then 50.000 but numbers vary depending on the manufacturer) engineers choose to use pre-made modules instead of going into the trouble of custom designing their own; try taking apart some badass expensive network gear, i'm talking 100.000+ USD per unit network gear; for example a Cisco ASR 9910, not really sure how expensive it is, but it's a perfect example Each and every single expansion card you can buy has a crap ton of off the shelf modules, i saw the PCB for the RP card, with it's just it's brains so to speak; it had off the shelf DC-DC converters everywhere, even the VRMs for the CPU were like that, off the shelf NON REDUNDANT WD Blue SSD, 512GB i remember, expandable RAM since it wasn't soldered, instead of ASIC's for communicating with the rest of the system it had FPGA chips (yes, FPGA are used when custom silicon isn't an option) Same goes for another Infinera rack i've seen, even for blade servers it's still true. Now, remember that 512GB non redundant SSD in the ASR 9910? Instead of making the board itself redundant, they made you buy 2 and yes, it makes sense to have 2 for redundancy anyway, but why not making the boards themselves redundant? RED cameras... are also pro gear that don't sell in large quantities, they might as well just manufacture them on demand in small batches, of course they will try to shove their fist up your ass to keep getting money from you since they don't sell many, it's exactly what apple does with the iphone and it's ecosystem, but there's no SATA SSD inside it And the marketing lies? Well you gotta give the reasons to customers to buy your product don't you? Maybe some customers look for reliability even on the storage format since it's expensive and proprietary, when you sell in small quantities you gotta make sure you take all the chances to sell it to any potential customer. Fair? Of course not but it's just how capitalism works.
Damn. Blew them both apart here Linus. Can't believe this is even a thing, Red why?
Let's buy 1000 of dollars for mini pcie STORAGE than usually costs 50-100 for just one 256gb. The fuck
Lol “thanks to red for sponsoring this video” 😂😂😂
Awesome info guys Can u guys create a custom made option
That's why we need competition in the market.
No step 1 Step 2 Step 4 Step 4 or 5
10 times markup isn't all that upsetting? I should rebrand laptops with my own brand and charge 10 times as much.
So... Is red the only manufacturer of high quality film equipment?!?
I feel like I just watched my dad yell at me
It's like the ink cartridge of video cameras.
Right
cant trust anyone anymore
Does it matter if it's just a consumer card? On all proprietary devices use the same tech at it's core. The question is how far in the factory line do you start changing things.
I'm going to make these for cheaper and get like a million dollars lmao 😂
But have you tried a Jinnimag ??
For me, RED has lost its credibility... RED charges ridiculously high prices for such an ordinary tech... its simply deception.... We much check whats in a RED camera... It might well be a Canon or Sony.
Video shot in 8k watches in 144p
Now I agree on a lot of what you say here but I am gonna come back to the firmware part and say that yeah, with your GPU example companies will alter the firmware a bit for branding purposes, that doesn't suddenly make the GPU slower or less compatible. an Asus branded Nvidia GPU will still work as intended with drivers from the Nvidia website instead of what comes with it from Asus. What RED has done is just add a flag in the firmware that the camera looks for and if it doesn't see it (because you are using a cheap knockoff or replaced the SSD inside due to hardware failure) the camera just chooses not to write at full speed, self-sabotaging its own performance so RED can make a buck. That's Apple levels of needless anti-consumer bullshit and should not be defended in the way that you have, especially as an apple hater.
Someone should make a RED Port to M.2 adapter and put in a 42mm name ssd
Red using firmware to throttle data transfer speed to normal SSDs is abuse of monopoly